Maps on Mega GPS (video included)

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    andrew joseph

    hello, just ordered a mega xl after my garmin edge 1000 screen broke.

    i understand that the xl does not have a base map and map sections need to be downloaded.  the gps root website only allows a small section of the uk to be selected at a time.  I want all the UK on the unit if possible.

    1 can this be done?

    2 if several 'map tiles' are needed, will they be selected automatically?

    3 if not selected automatically, how do i change map tiles?  can't see anything on how to do that.

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    Adam

    Hi Andrew,

    1. No, this cannot be done. As I alluded to above, the file size "can increase exponentially depending on the size of the area and the density of the roads in the area. It may be easier to create several smaller maps and avoid unnecessary areas that you've no intention of riding." That is to say, dense areas like London would, by themselves, push the individual file size limits.

    2. Yes, it will seamlessly switch from one to another. You won't have to do anything.

    3. See #2

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    andrew joseph

    Adam, thanks for that.

     

    Is there a limit to the smaller maps i can put on the xl?  

     

    thanks

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    Adam

    Hi Andrew,

    A few minutes ago, I went into a little detail over in this thread.

    The Mega devices have 64mb of storage that maps and activities share. There's no limit to the number of maps you can upload, but depending on the size of the map files, you will run into a storage space limit at some point.

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    Pete Grey

    Is there some way to select/tag larger sections, for download though, concurrently?
    I want to upload a section of the W. Coast, for a tour, and it looks like this amounts to 16 maps, for 300 miles of riding.

    Granted, I have to "overselect", because the coast tends to vary, longitudinally, a lot, so rectangles don't do the best job of covering things.

    Surely there's a better method, than doing this in 16 segments, for a 300mi ride (this is only part of it, I sort of gave up on the rest of the route, for now)?

    Maybe there should be a way to "trace" roads, so you could get all the data in a given radius of a section of the road (really more of a "swath")?

    This would largely eliminate the need for all the unnecessary roads that get "picked up", when trying to follow a long road(s), that curve a lot.

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    Ilan

    Hi Adam, having predefined maps, even if they cannot be very big, would really improve user experience I think.

    But I am surprised the Mega's have only 64 mb of storage. Is that true, or is it a typo? A few gigs of storage costs hardly anything nowadays.

    Is there an easy way to delete maps from the device, too? Now that I'm back from holiday, I do not need Slovenian maps anymore.. :-)

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    Adam

    If you download through the website, you can select a vertical map that is long and skinny. I've covered hundreds of miles on the California coast with only 4 maps (all through the site).

    You delete maps the same way you add maps from the website.

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    garydinoz

    Adam, good useful posts here but I’d like to confirm one thing before I purchase the mega xl. I read in a review that you can only have 25 way points on a route. That seems to contradict what I’ve read in another of your posts. As I’m planning on using it for a tour of Vietnam the maps will be crucial as will the routes for 200km days. Is their a limit?
    Thanks
    Gary

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    Adam

    Routes built through our website are limited on the number of way points you can use. The app doesn't have a limit. Check out this article on creating or importing routes.

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    Dominik K

    What I've seen on youtube you can have more points using mobile app. Anyway it is problematic if you can't do it via website. They should fix it. Let's wait for the answer here :).

    Dominik

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    garydinoz

    Hi Adam, thanks for the reply. Like Dominic it would be better through the website. I have my routes already built and some are complex. Is it likely to be addressed soon?

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    Dominik K

    Hi Adam,

    Next thing to know. I'm really sorry but I don't like both your softwares in terms of creating routes - I already checked how it works without having Lezyne bike computer. I'd like to create routes on strava. There is an option on GPS root website to upload gpx file and then I can see it on Lezyn GPS Ally. The question is - If I have gpx file created on the other platform - like strava, garmin connect - Lezyne Mega GPS device read the file properly and "turn by turn" navigetion working fine ??? 

    Best Regards

    Dominik

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    Pete Grey

    I saw your reply on the "skinny" maps, but I must just not be doing something right?
    For example, I chose the skinniest possible map segment (will probably be using this next year on family bike tour anway), between Bodega Bay and SanFran.  This came in at a "not so slim" 732K, which was obviously about the max, per-segment, and only covers a small (far less than 1/4) section of the coast.

    How are you getting 4 maps for the Ca. coastline, I'm a bit befuddled?  Is there a lower-density or similar setting, that I'm just missing?

    I'm also a bit puzzled, I think I "hosed" a bunch of my maps, by renaming them and putting things like: "BodegaBay_to_SanFran_mf_41.70_-124.59_43.14_-123.87_144_72.lzm".

    This is ultimately "actually identifiable, when you're managing the files, right?  How else are you supposed to figure out the value: 41.70_-124.59_43.14_-123.87_144_72.lzm is corresponding to that segment (say if you have 20-30 downloaded maps)?

    I suspect the answer, is to keep co-copies, of each, and remove the (added) prefix, before a sync? 

    Is there any chance this will get fixed, so adding the prefix to the ".lzm" files will work, regardless (I don't really see any downside to this?)?

    Thanks, for the clarifications.

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    Adam

    Dominik,

    Please read this article.

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    Adam

    Pete,

    I said "I've covered hundreds of miles on the California coast with only 4 maps." I didn't say that I got the entire California coast.

    I'm backing up all of my maps on my desktop. Here's a screen capture of my folders.

    I've currently got a lot of overlap in the Mendocino area because I was experimenting with covering the area needed for a specific race. Before I deleted my old ones and started over, I had San Francisco to Santa Barbara covered, which is what I would normally ride.

    When you download a map from the website it specifically says, Do not rename the map file. Maybe try a system like mine to keep track?

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    Paul van Wersch

    Any chance you will be increasing the maximum area allowed for single map files? Just my regular riding area takes about 30 files and given the naming structure, it is a bit unwieldy to say the least. Even if you made "region" packages available, it would be a massive improvement.

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    garydinoz

    I bit the bullet and bought a Mega XL and have tried it out at the weekend.  I uploaded a TCX route and downloaded the base map.  When it came to ride I expected a nice map with turn by turn directions.  I had the TBT prompts but the map was just a breadcrumb, I don't believe this is correct?

    Also so I have been unable to download any map for Vietnam, I have chosen some small areas but have still been unsuccessful, as I bought it for a tour of Vietnam this is crucial that it works.

    Any advice?

    Thanks

    Gary

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    Adam

    Paul,

    The device has limitations on how big of a map it can process, and there's limitation on the amount of time spent generating a map file from the server here. 

    Corner to corner on a map from the site, without adjusting the shape, is about 140 miles as the crow flies. For instance, you can get all of the San Francisco Bay Area in one map - from Marin all the way to Watsonville. That's a full day's ride just to get across. 30 of those would be thousands of square miles.

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    Adam

    Hi Gary,

    I let R&D know about Vietnam. They should have that fixed in the coming days.

    Breadcrumb to me usually means that it's leaving a trail of where you've been, which is a separate screen from the turn-by-turn screen or the map screen (that's three screens total). Are you on the correct screen?

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    garydinoz

    Thanks, Adam, would it be correct for the turn-by-turn navigation that I have on screen the heading with upcoming turn and street name, speed and I think the 3rd was time? I’m comparing this to the wahoo where I have the map and then the turn by turn information comes on screen. Can I have the map on the screen with this information? Appreciate your support in the forum.
    Cheers
    Gary

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    Ilan

    Hi Adam,

     

    How can I see which maps are currently stored on my device? I would like to delete a few old ones, keep only relevant ones.

     

    And what is the total amount of storage of the Maga XL? Is it indeed 64 mb, as I read in one of your posts? Or should that be 64 Gb? I mean, some of the maps are bigger than 64 mb, right?

     

    Thanks!

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    Adam

    Hi Ilan,

    Please see my comments above about keeping track of which map is which.

    Yes, it's 64 mb as I previously stated, and no, none of the maps are even close to being 64 mb. My biggest one is 2,075 kb.

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    Pete Grey

    Thanks Adam, finally getting back around to this (bike tour over for the year, as well as other "more adventurous" rides, so the MegaXL is "away for a while").


    I actually thought about using a multi-folder model, but really that's essentially creating a many-many relationship, that's tricky to "track", particularly if you accidentally download the wrong area to a folder.
    Plus, it's sort of a hassle, to set-up, and more-so to change the folder structure, say if you want to "broaden" three sections that you already have.

     

    Surely the app/MegaXL could just ignore the "leading prefix" (or really most other name data, right?), and simply import the LZM files, and use the header metadata to determine validity?

    I'd be happy to help tweak the parser if you can accept help? ;-]

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    Gwoity

    Hi Adam,

    I love my new Lezyne Mega XL but find the zoom on the maps a little lacking... I seem to be able to get 3-4 zoom levels, but really need to be able to zoom out to see a bigger picture of the roads up ahead.  It appears that the zoom out is only about 500m or so.  Am I doing something wrong or missing something?  Is a further zoom out coming down the pipe?  The way I currently do it is by pushing and holding the lower left button when on the map screen.

    Thanks for any help.

    Greg

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    Adam

    Hi Greg,

    We don't have plans to change how the devices zoom, but I'll pass your feedback along.

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    Gwoity

    Another question regarding the Map Screen... Is there (or will there be) any way to display a couple data fields on the Map Screen?  I purchased the Mega XL to  be used on Long Distance gravel events like the Dirty Kanza as it has a superior battery compared to any other unit.  I would ideally like to have the map screen displayed with my Watts on the top so I know where I am going and that I am sticking to my planned power output.  Thanks, Greg

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